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PostSubject: TOURNEY TIME!   Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:07 pm

It's about damn time!

-*- THIS DSF INHOUSE TOURNAMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LETTER "F", FOR FUCKED IN THE HEAD; WHICH YOU ARE RICKY! -*-

The basic concept of this is to create a team for DSF that will participate in TDA Pickuplistchecker Events.

TEAM DSF WILL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS:

5 Permanent members
2 Substitute members

***FORMAT FOR THE TOURNAMENT***

12 Man/6 teams round robin (or more if we receive more applicants)

MEMBERS ALREADY ENLISTED:
Nico12
Purger202
Renovatio.
Darthcon101
arcthefinger
Riv-01d
Liverstones
Y-O-D-A
32.33
Cetasile
Igotjokes

TEAMS OF 3V3 (with 1 or 2 referees)
MODE WILL BE -RDOM

**For those of you who are unfamiliar with RD**
RD is Random Draft where 2 random taverns are generated and players draft in this format:
1 sentinel picks
2 scourge picks
1 sentinel pick
**** When creating a game players must be in the first 2 slots of each team or this screws up the draft order****


Me and Renovatio have discussed the tournament and Since we will be a team, it seems
counter-productive to have a 1v1 tournament. RD is balanced for the 3v3 scenario.

AFTER 6 teams complete the round robin the top 4 teams will advance to a playoff series of
Single Elimination.

***UPDATE***
The 4 team top 8 will be a double-blind tournament. This means that 1st and 2nd play eachother, the winner advances to the finals, the loser then fights the WINNER of the 3rd and 4th place match. The winner of that match
goes to the finals as well.

Out of the top 8 playoff Standings:
the top 4 players will automatically receive permanent slots onto the team.
1 member in the top 8 will receive a permanent slot onto the team via REFEREE scorecard
2 members will be awarded substitute positions via referee scorecard.
1 unfortunate player will not receive a slot (but don't fret! Members will be able to challenge slots on TEAM DSF at a later date.)

REFEREES:
Referees will analyze the match and Rank players from 4-1 based on their performance in the match.
Referees will Judge performance using the following criteria:
Lane control (Kills,Denies,Kiting, agroing)
Character control
Teamwork
Effective pushing/defending
Effective Ganking/Saving

The top player of a game gets 4 points on their REF scorecard. The Bottom gets 1 point.

At the end of the tournament Referees will award 1 Permanent slot
and 2 Substitute slots to Members who have the highest REF points and placed 5th through 8th.
**ANY tie breakers and there will be a 1v1 on -apom mode.**


The tournament will not be held in one day, rather both teams will agree on a time/date and if any of the 4 players are absent then then
the match shall be postponed.(to a reasonable limit)

I will make this thread the signup sheet as well. Post here if you are applying and I will edit this post to reflect it.

**UPDATE**
We've decided it's unfair for us to not let people pick their own teams. The last thing we want is a bunch of people
getting into arguments about their team so if we let members select their partners its on their head not ours.
Pick your team mate, If you cannot find anyone/don't care who you go with let us know and we will find you a partner.

TEAMS:

Team 1:
1. Renovatio.
2. Arcthefinger.
3. Bunkmate (superpal)

Team 2:
1. Nico12
2. Liverstones
3. ?

Team 3:
1. 32.33
2. Y-O-D-A.
3. Anyone that wants to join us.

Team 4:
1. Darthcon101
2. Purger202
3. ?

Members left:
  • igotjokes
  • Cetasile
  • BigsMcLargeHuge
  • Arraruei
  • BURRRRRRITO
  • magicmark6969
  • Leikeze

GL to all.


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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:24 am

Of course, count me in. Sounds like a hell of a tourney, pretty excited about it.

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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:10 am

I'm in as well. Sounds like fun.

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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:57 pm

i'm in, best of luck to all participants Smile
just wondering when the tournament and or matches will be held, thanks in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:11 pm

Im in Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:18 pm

I'll join.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:29 pm

Come on guys we need more people. Sign up and have a good time don't worry about loosing your not out of the clan lol it just means the shamans and more experinced players will practice with you more until you are ready for tda/clan scrims.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:01 pm

I'm in, and so is 32.33, he is just to lazy to post on his own. If we pick teams i guess it will be me and 32.33, if not then w/e.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:17 pm

Y-O-D-A wrote:
I'm in, and so is 32.33, he is just to lazy to post on his own. If we pick teams i guess it will be me and 32.33, if not then w/e.

As said before, everyone that wants in need to make their own post. Cant be posting for others.

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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:28 pm

gah fine
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:44 pm

count me in
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:42 pm

darthcon101 wrote:

**UPDATE**
We've decided it's unfair for us to not let people pick their own teams. The last thing we want is a bunch of people
getting into arguments about their team so if we let members select their partners its on their head not ours.
Pick your team mate, If you cannot find anyone/don't care who you go with let us know and we will find you a partner.

GL to all.

Its not necessarily fair for people to pick their parters because 2 good players > 1 good player and one average player. Also, do we have to play in 2v2's? IMO DotA is made as a 5v5 game and 2v2 simply depends on the hero you get (because of the certain heroes that own 2v2....).
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:49 pm

riv_01d wrote:
darthcon101 wrote:

**UPDATE**
We've decided it's unfair for us to not let people pick their own teams. The last thing we want is a bunch of people
getting into arguments about their team so if we let members select their partners its on their head not ours.
Pick your team mate, If you cannot find anyone/don't care who you go with let us know and we will find you a partner.

GL to all.

Its not necessarily fair for people to pick their parters because 2 good players > 1 good player and one average player. Also, do we have to play in 2v2's? IMO DotA is made as a 5v5 game and 2v2 simply depends on the hero you get (because of the certain heroes that own 2v2....).

the problem is we don't have enough people to 5v5 tournyies or even have a 5v5 inhouse
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:48 am

in the spirit of fairness wouldn't we want our best players to be on the team in the first place?
We have a lot of good players, but even still, i wouldn't want the best players to carry or get pulled down by their random partners and have us make a team with say 3 Great players and 2 good players while 2 more Great players got the shaft b/c they didn't function well with their partners.
Then we get into scenarios where guys are bitter at their teammates for not making the team b/c it was a random pull and we start a rift in the clan.

Just my 2 cents

**PS** why hasn't majicmark signed up for this event yet? someone needs to inform him.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:09 am

darthcon101 wrote:

**PS** why hasn't majicmark signed up for this event yet? someone needs to inform him.

I already told him and he said he read a little about it. I guess he will sign up soon, he been kinda busy lately.

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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:26 am

riv_old wrote:
Its not necessarily fair for people to pick their parters because 2 good players > 1 good player and one average player. Also, do we have to play in 2v2's? IMO DotA is made as a 5v5 game and 2v2 simply depends on the hero you get (because of the certain heroes that own 2v2....).
I think the 2v2's aren't a bad idea because they force the focus of the game on lane control and, as a clan, we're not as used to non-easy-mode games as we probably should be. Of course, if I'm in a matchup in which I have Tinker/Zeus against two weak agi heros, I wouldn't be opposed to remake the game in the interest of a balanced set of heros which would replicate "realgame" experience.

darthcon101 wrote:
in the spirit of fairness wouldn't we want our best players to be on the team in the first place?
We have a lot of good players, but even still, i wouldn't want the best players to carry or get pulled down by their random partners and have us make a team with say 3 Great players and 2 good players while 2 more Great players got the shaft b/c they didn't function well with their partners.
Then we get into scenarios where guys are bitter at their teammates for not making the team b/c it was a random pull and we start a rift in the clan.
This scenario is unlikely at best. And even in the event that some "great player" doesn't make it on the team, that person would always be able to appeal to Matt to get added.

I definitely think we should make it random. There isn't a single person on DSF that I would be disappointed to lane with.

Another suggestion I have: 2 + 3 computer vs 2 + 3 computer. Obviously, the computers don't actually pick heros, but this limits your starting gold to what it would be in a normal 5v5 -rd game instead of giving you an inflated set of early game items.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:27 pm

I'm in.
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:49 pm

arcthefinger. wrote:

Another suggestion I have: 2 + 3 computer vs 2 + 3 computer. Obviously, the computers don't actually pick heros, but this limits your starting gold to what it would be in a normal 5v5 -rd game instead of giving you an inflated set of early game items.

Sad Uhhhhhh..... I hate limited starting gold, takes the fun out of it. Razz Are we going to do -rd or -apxl?

Edit: And when are we going to start?
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:39 pm

Tournament will start either this weekend or next week, so make sure to sign up if you haven't. Start posting the team you are in. Remember that now teams are of 3 players. In case we get more sign ups we will increase team size to 4.

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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:20 pm

Well I can't do it this weekend because I'm out of town this saturday and sunday. I'm US Central Time, just so you know. 3v3 seems quite reasonable, but I'll still play 2v2.


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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:34 pm

why are teams 3v3 now?
couldnt we just do no bottom lane
since we dont have enough for even teams or three
we have one extra atm...
sooo yea just a suggestion
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:40 pm

nico12 wrote:
why are teams 3v3 now?
couldnt we just do no bottom lane
since we dont have enough for even teams or three
we have one extra atm...
sooo yea just a suggestion
comment away

Well, mark, darth and me had been talking about it and we all came to the conclusion that 2v2 does not really demonstrates team ability.

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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:43 pm

i guess, but we still need more ppl Razz
what happens if we dont get anymore signed up?
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:07 pm

nico12 wrote:
i guess, but we still need more ppl Razz
what happens if we dont get anymore signed up?

If two more people sign up then we will have 4 even teams of 3. I think that would work out good. So... we need two more people. silent
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PostSubject: Re: TOURNEY TIME!   Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:55 pm

yea lol
but that doesnt answer my question...
what happens if no more ppl sign up?
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